Anyone have a sweet camping bed and want to share their wisdom on how to make one?? Or, even better, has anyone ever bought one ready made? It's one of those things I really want and don't have nearly the skills to make.
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 12:49 AMif you have a roof rack you can so what i do and just bring a normal twin sized bed camping though i probly coudl get away witha full size:)
Emyrs
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 5:31 AMHee hee! Once again... There was a post on another tribe about Period tent plans. I have drawings I can send you or make for you (I am a drafter / designer by trade) but any format I can write to that can be universally shared on tribe is not able to be uploaded as an image. What I would like to see is some sort of database feature where I could simply upload some PDFs and everyone could look at them and use them as they see fit.
I have made a rope bed... very comfy and simple to make, a bit more of a pain to set up than a slat bed but I have been considering a modification that would change that. I can even describe the basic design. Use 4x4 posts for legs (mine are 2' long. This gives me enough room under the bed to store most of my gear so the floor of my tent is clear. I used 1/2" bolts and good heavy washers to bolt the head and foot boards and side rails to the legs. 4 bolts for each leg 2 into the head/foot 2 into the side. 1/2" is probably overkill but I tend to build things "Too Strong... Not break" Along that same line of thinking I used 2x10 head, foot and side boards with a hole drilled every 4” along their length about 2” from the top of the board. Then I just run ropes through the holes. Pull them nice and tight and put a futon mattress on it.
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 5:58 AMFearghus,
Dude post them to your Yahoo account! For those that ask PM them with the link?
We had a full size bed frame already that i a bit large with posts and such but we take that with us on the trailer and bought a futon mattress for it. That goes inside the minivan. It had slats for the box spring and we added a piece of 1/2 playwood and a piece of 3/4" Shleving for a "platform" for the mattress. We broke one of the original slats during XXXIII. Other folks in our camp had bought a new bed to be delivered at Pennsic and had tossed the old slats from on top of the Metal frame in the firepit. We grabbed them and cut them to fit our frame and I could do without the platform now with close to a dozen slats. -
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 6:32 AMI was given the mortal remains of an IKEA "Vestby" bed. It's a series of slats connected by fabric tape and staples - which means this section can be rolled up for storage. I made a frame out of 2" x 4" lumber - you could make this to take apart, but I don't, I just pack inside and around it. I unroll the slats and bungee them to the head and foot rail.
LJ
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 7:34 AMI had refused to sleep on an air bed for another two weeks before Pennsic 33, but we were running out of time to make anything. So we came up with this fairly quick & easy solution....
We stole the bed frame from the extra bedroom & my husband cut wood slats that complety cover the frame. Then he added 2 solid metal supports (about 2 inches wild) for extra security (hey, it is Pennsic) that go between the slats. Added a futon & poof instant camp bed. Believe it not, it's pretty comfy (& much better than an air matteress).
A good friend of ours made a rope bed this year. It only took him a few hours. But of course, this is the guy who sleeps on a rope bed as his real bed in his house.
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 9:25 AMCheck out the Panther website for their hardware kit to build an EZ knockdown platform bed. $20 for the set, (not the wood) and then all you need is 3-2x6's, 2-4x4's, (or one really long one of each.. LOL) - a sheet of plywood and some scrap bits/screws to builds yourself a custom-sized deal that knocks down to a small stack of boards and will take much abuse. You can make the legs as high/tall as you wish (4-poster if desired) and the sides & ends as wide as you need to fit your mattress of choice.
I built mine with a ground clearance of 18" which clears almost all plastic 18/20 gallon tub heights so you's can stash the mundane stuff under the bed like a set of large drawers. For a mattress I have a stack of 4 convoluted foam mattress toppers stuffed into a thin futon cover which is extremely lightweight, washes, and rolls/compresses like crazy. (my old futon mattress wasn't all that comfy, weighed a ton, and rolled up like a bitch)
No bolting/unbolting, stringing of ropes, (which require that you are pretty much stuffed together with your sig/ot. in the center) or any of that as it simply hooks together. :D
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 9:59 AMI have sort of a cross between a rope bed and a lawn lounge in my vardo. It's a frame made of two by fours, reinforced on the back corners. I took lawn chair webbing and fastened it to the frame as tight as I could, fastening it with wood screws. I then took a foam rubber mattress (get one with a cover so it doesn't absorb moisture from the air and get clammy) and fit it into the frame. VERY comfy. Mine actually folds in half longways for storage and travel. It's two frames hinged together, each with it's own mattress section. I cover it with soft sleeping bags and blankets for when Dmitri's also using it, so the middle spine doesn't bother us.
This whole contraption bolts into my vardo on legs, but I imagine you could make one to fit your needs with a little imagination. -
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Fri, November 4, 2005 - 2:15 PMI have a rope bed that I purchased at Pennsic- it is designed so that as you tighten the ropes the bed is pulled together- no bolting required. As long as you remember to tighten it on the afternoon after you set it up, it remains tight enough to sleep on comfortably (with just minimal padding although I do use an air matress) but it is springy enough that my back doesn't hurt. Plus it is a queen size and I can still fit it in the back of my station wagon. I could probably describe it well enough for someone to make it if you want. -
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Fri, November 4, 2005 - 3:08 PMAlmost forgot, but
www.daviddfriedman.com/Mediev...any.htm includes instructions on building a rope bed and other camp furniture.
My ex built an overengineered abomination of a rope bed that was too tall for me to get in and out of comfortably and sagged badly in the center. Cariadoc's design looks like it would sag somewhat less because of the way it tensions the ropes.
LJ
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Fri, November 4, 2005 - 4:09 PMyou gotta be fuckin kiddin me......
a pile of furs and fuckin blankets!
smells period and gives a great excuse for your war cooze to get the fuck outta your tent when you're done with her.
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Fri, November 4, 2005 - 8:49 PMNote to self: don't invite Dave into tent. Though if a bungee cord decides to give way, it'll be far more effective than dirty laundry smells.....
Tongue very firmly in cheek,
LJ
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Thu, May 31, 2007 - 4:37 PMWhat is this Panther Website you speak of, I googled it and couldnt find any bed related stuff. -
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Thu, May 31, 2007 - 4:42 PM
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Fri, November 4, 2005 - 5:55 PMI made four sturdy wooden boxes, one holds my tent (a 16x16 regent), one holds the canopy and ropes/stakes, one holds all the bedding, and the last holds camp misc. The boxes are 30 inches tall (and due to my love for 2x4's very heavy!) Anyway after we unpack them they become the base for the bed and we put a platform on top and a queen sized air mattress. This system works wonders because we do not have to store all kinds of unsightly rubbermaid bins or whatever while we are camping, it keeps us out of any water on the ground and provides space underneath for more storage if need be. We got the idea from some friends who have a similar set up, but their boxes open on the side to allow access to them without dismantaling the bed to get more blankies or whatever.
The only other stuff we have to pack is the 3 coolers, clothing, poles and chairs/table. It is cool.
IN Peace,
ME.
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Sat, November 5, 2005 - 2:20 PMSeveral years ago I made a fast and simple bed thats still going strong. It's 2 2x8's 8 foot or over and 7 - 8 closet rods (1 1/2 inch dowels).
I taped the 2x8's together (with duct tape of course!) and drilled through them with a large bit. Then sanded down thw dowel ends to fit. It takes a hammer to put it together and take it apart, but it is sturdy. I put an air mattress on the cross pieces and a futon on top of the air mattress.
Last year I made another for a friend and her husband. They love it to.
Maureen
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Sun, November 6, 2005 - 8:56 AMYears ago our van broke down on the way up to war and we had to leave the whole bed operation behind -- so we went to the goodwill in Butler and purchased a queen size mattress and box spring for less than 100 bucks. We just put it in storage each year, one day I will build a frame for it, but for now I don't have to sleep on the "Back breaker" a.k.a. an air mattress. The box spring makes it sturdy and my bed is lots of fun, when you have the most comfortable bed, people tend to want to be in it. :)
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Mon, June 19, 2006 - 9:16 PMI thought I would bring this subject back up as I am now seeking a new bed myself. I already have a "Slumberjack" cot that is 40” x 86” x 20” and pretty comfy for one. Now I am trying to find a cot for two.
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Mon, June 19, 2006 - 11:54 PMWalmart stores sell this in a queen and it is the best ever. Highly reccomended two thumbs way up. www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do -
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 6:05 AMI have a Queen sized one of those. They're ok, except that as with any air mattress, you have to watch for leakage, especially on cold nights. Also, because of the huge air gap under you, they tend to be cold for sleeping.
Suggestion - insulate the bottom of the air mattress with foam or one of those silver space blankets. Also, insulate the top if possible.
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 7:05 AMI use a rope bed with a futon mattress on it. It works well because I built it tall enough that I can push my clothing totes under it and keep my floor space open for setting up chairs. I don’t know what you camp in, but there are several rope or slat bed designs out there to be had. I have been thinking of ways to modify mine to make it easier to set up (not that it is all that hard to set up, but I can think of ways to make it easier.)
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 7:13 AMA few years ago I made a queen sized slat bed based on the Gokstad find. We use a queen sized air mattress on it and use a wool blanket to protect the air mattress from splinters, and another wool blanket so that we aren't directly on the air mattress.
Here are some photos (and plans): tinyurl.com/pgz5y -
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 7:59 AMNice... simple design. Good job, Thor. -
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 12:05 PMThat is indeed pretty nice. I wish I had tools... hmmmm... may have to think about this. -
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 12:26 PMI have a queen size rope bed that I got at Pennsic already made... and the nice thing is that there are no bolts required! The side, head, and foot rails fit into dadoed (sp?) notches in the posts. As you tighten the ropes, the rails are held into the notches. I throw an air matress on top- I use a flannel duvet/comforter cover to protect the airmatress and not make it too cold. I like the rope because to me it is much springier than slats. You just have to remember that rope will shrink when hot so just tighten the ropes on the first afternoon and you will be good. We could probably dispense with the air matress and just use foam pads and blankets, but that would actually take up more space I think. Well, maybe if I ever get that trailer I want.
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 1:56 PMFor a rope bed, you might find it useful to make yourself a bed key.
See: monkeystack.com/cgi-bin/ObjectWindow.pl -
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 4:04 PMwww.greydragon.org/furniture.html
that being said..
IMO the best way to make an "sca camp bed" is to first get your matress..
Im a fan of a futon. measure it and build a frame to suit..
Ive done about everything for bed frames up to and including a full canopy bed with carvings all over it.. to a few cinder blocks and a sheet of 3/4 plywood..
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Wed, June 21, 2006 - 8:45 AMI have made a number of SCA camping beds. I started with a rope bed, but they tend to sag in the middle, so they tweak my back. You can carefully fold a few blankets under the futon to compensate for this, but it always ends up bowed or lumpy.
Then I added a 2 by 2 down each side at rope level, and put slats down under the futon. Way more level, but stringing the rope is a pain.
I now use a design that is similar to a rope bed. The difference is that I use 4 by 4's for the corners with slots routered into them to recieve the side pieces. Also, I got tired of stringing the long rope, so I put an eye bolt inside each leg, and I re-use ratchet ties from my trailer to tension the frame in a matter of minutes. I also ditched the slats with space between them for an accordion of flat boards put together with piano hinges in the center. It's like a sheet of plywood that folds up into a little (heavy) box.
Sometimes, assembling the parts long enough to put tension on them can be a pain. I put small door hinges at every connection. I pull the pins out with pliers, and put them back in with my fingers. It's just enough to hold all the pieces together while I put tension on it without a leg falling off and crashing everything. (it happened once)
I have also made canopy beds for years now. There is nothing worse than trying to nap with a fly in the tent. I hang one of those bug netting domes from the canopy, and tie it to the corner posts. Blissful sleep without inturruption. Curtains hung from the canopy can block the view behind the bed, and look cool.
The bed is tall enough to slide short Rubbermaid totes under it like drawers for stuff you need to store and keep dry. The totes saved us when our tent flooded. Dry socks can mean so much.
I used to bring blocks of wood to shim up the legs on uneven ground. For this last bed, I built a nut into the bottom of each leg, with a heavy threaded rod that becomes an adjustable foot. It also keeps the wood from sitting directly on the ground. It's like having shims that you can't forget to bring.
Any clever monkey with a hand saw and a wood chisel can make this stuff. A router and a chop saw will make quick work of it. Bribing someone with tools is as good as having them. Just insist that you'll do the boring sanding and varnishing, and most woodworkers can easily be bribed into doing the tehnical parts.
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Mon, June 26, 2006 - 9:02 AMDoes anyone know where you can just buy a bed?? -
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Mon, June 26, 2006 - 11:35 AMNow you know that would make things way too easy...where's the fun in that? -
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Mon, June 26, 2006 - 12:08 PMNo sh*t Kalum... ;-)
Darter, - dude. Where the hell you live? Come on over sometime (when the humidity's a little lower than 97%) and we can knock you something together in an afternoon. That kit I mentioned earlier on this thread from Panther's a pretty good basic hardware kit for a 4-post, 4-rail type knockdown bed. ("unsubscribed"? - dat's me, baby... ;-D )
Otherwise? - hit the local Goodwill/yard sale and just buy a cheap double bed headboard 'n frame and drag it to War. They DO disassemble n' all... (hint: - cut a few extra slats for between the rails if you're using some sort of "soft" mattress... - better yet, - cut a piece of thin plywood to fit over the slats in the frame, then bisect that down into 4 pieces for ease of transport - bingo!)
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Tue, June 27, 2006 - 8:12 AMCool beans Cowboy. I may do as you say.
Oh, I am in Pittsburgh, only an hour from Pennsic and if I recall you are quite far from me.
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Tue, June 27, 2006 - 7:57 AMDarter man! As cowboy said what we sleep on is an OLD wooden full size bed frame with a few extra slats added to it, a few 6 foot lengths of wood shelving material (transports easier than plywood) and a futon mattress on top of it. Breaksdown pretty compact and looks good too! The most expensive part was the futon mattress. Go with an airmattresson top and your set for cheap.
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Thu, May 31, 2007 - 11:56 AMAmazon.com has some cool and affordable stuff if you don't want to build your own.
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Mon, June 26, 2006 - 8:35 PMi've made a few in my woodshop over the last few years and we're looking at making another one very soon.
14 pieces. 4 4x4s 4 foot long (thats alot of 4s), Two long rails for the sides and two wider boards for the head/foot. On the head and foot boards cut two 6 inch tenons on each end, about 4 inches between them. The side rails get a single tenon. The 4x4s get holes the correspond to the tenons, opposite faces get 2 holes, the others one. This way the tenons will pass thru and you can then put pegs in to hold it all tight. inside the rails screw a 2x4 about an inch below the rail edge, this is where the slats will sit. On the head/foot boards, i screwed a 2x6 with two notches taken out to accomdate 2x4s that run the length. This was a king size so these were to help distribute the weight. Then slats of plywood that cover the inside.
Thats a sub par description, but you can see photos of it at:
www.wackyland.com/wood/bed/
with a fully outfitted shop, you could probably pump the frame out in a day.
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Mon, June 26, 2006 - 10:08 PM...*thinking* ...How about I just hang my hammock inside my tent?
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Mon, June 26, 2006 - 11:38 PMAfter hearing too many "flood" horror stories, and a bit of water in my tent last year, I am investigating any method of getting my bed off the floor of my tent. As I don't have tools or a budget for a lot of supplies, I am thinking I might go with a simple futon platform from IKEA or the like. That should get the bedding off the ground by a few inches, enough to keep "unexpected moisture" off the bedding. If that falls through (buget) I can go for a ne air mattress, and put the futon on top of it again. It wasn't bad. -
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Tue, June 27, 2006 - 4:44 AMsheet of plywood sitting up on some milk crates. -
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Tue, June 27, 2006 - 11:12 PM>> sheet of plywood sitting up on some milk crates.
Milk crates! Brilliant, I never thought of that! Need things to put stuff in for packing/storage, too.
And I have a bunch. All I need is a sheet of plywood.
(how much does a sheet of plywood set a girl back? for a twin futon?)
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Wed, June 28, 2006 - 12:13 AM3/4 ply sanded on one side is about 28 bucks at home despot...
a cheap do-it-yourself bed can be made with two sheets of 3/4 ply. cut the sides and footboard about 14" wide by whatever the base size is of the futon usually its around 54" wide and 78" long basically measure your futon then build the frame to match.. anywho.. the trick its to measure the sides onto a full sheet and cut the excess off the end of the 4' side of the ply sheet.. that will become your headboard. ( it will be longer and a bit more substantial than the footboard and sides... this keeps the futon from migrating during vigorous rest...) then rip the sides on a table saw as well as a chunk for the footboard all of the same width..
now buy a few removable pin hinges from home despot and knock the pins out and replace them with some sturdy "L" shaped wire.. this will hold the box together.. you then places usually three on each side and two on each end...
the tricky part here is the actual ply that the futon will set on should be 1 1/2 wider than the width of the footboard.. this makes the ply set on top of the sides.. then 3/4 wider than the length of the sideboard so it overlaps the foot board... the only place the futon ply will butt against is the headboard.. and that will be held up by the hinges with the lil pins..basically it should overlap the entire sides except where the headboard is.. you essentually making a big box.. for ease of packing you can cut the futon ply top in half and stick a few hinges down the seam so you can fold it in half.. ( some may want to put a piano hinge across that seam.. if your a bit large or a bit agressive in yer "sleepin" OR make a "X" out of the scrap and stick it inside the box for added support...)
there you go.. a cheap easy box that flips bottom up to hold a matress on .... If you want to get creative you can put drawers on a side and use the underside of the bed for storage..
FYI...slat beds make a LOT of noise.. im talkin more noise than two old people with hip replacements gettin it on.. serious "wake the serengetti" noise.....
a futon for paddin, SOLID ply for the underlayment and sturdy constuction will save you and guests from embareASSment.... -
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Thu, June 29, 2006 - 1:09 PMI'd love to try this sometime. Right now I am an apartment-dweller with no tools and a budget the size of a shrew's purse. I am going to get the plywood cut into proper-sized sections at the store, and rig up some sort of hardware to hold them together once the bed is put together.
It won't be the most attractive and invitne bed, but there is always next year. Who knows. Maybe I'll find myself a lord with the right tools.
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Fri, June 30, 2006 - 9:25 AM
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